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"Everybody knows that men have men's genitalia, but we don't need to be reminded of it..."
Amen, agree with and everything else in that comment. I'd always been reluctant of being more accepting and open but lately I've realised that it has to be normalised and become more like how a woman would be allowed to feel or be i.e. can wear almost anything and not be made to feel like all eyes are on them or ridiculous. It's just conditioning, i'm sure that with time and a bit of social education that men will be made to feel less awkward and targeted. I've never felt this more completely and prolonged as I do now, usually it's moments of perspicacity and hope and wanting to just be free followed by the all overwhelming feeling of guilt and wanting to feel 'normal' instead.

sensu4 wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:14 pm "Everybody knows that men have men's genitalia, but we don't need to be reminded of it..."
Amen, agree with and everything else in that comment. I'd always been reluctant of being more accepting and open but lately I've realised that it has to be normalised and become more like how a woman would be allowed to feel or be i.e. can wear almost anything and not be made to feel like all eyes are on them or ridiculous. It's just conditioning, i'm sure that with time and a bit of social education that men will be made to feel less awkward and targeted. I've never felt this more completely and prolonged as I do now, usually it's moments of perspicacity and hope and wanting to just be free followed by the all overwhelming feeling of guilt and wanting to feel 'normal' instead.

I think that most men are not interested in breaking new ground when It comes to fashion. I'm starting to believe that alot of men are sheep and only a handful are leaders. Most of us who find these forums are leaders, even if you don't think so.
I will continue to push the envelope of men's swimwear and leggings. So getting the heard of sheep to follow is not going to easy, so be confident and wear it like you own it. Or stole it!

Amen, I've been feeling more emboldened and daring. I even had a breakthrough today. I wrote about it in the swimwear section called "It finally happened! Happy thong tuesday!" a two parter rather rambling writeup.

After the build up to it and actually going through with it I feel somewhat more differently than before. I have felt prudishness to be one of the most disgusting of things but usually I wouldn't be as forthright nor extroverted about it.

Now I feel differently having openly worn my thong while changing AND while swimming at the pool. I have come to see boardshorts in this new light as being not only ridiculous but appalling. Before I would've felt like it was "appropriate" due to all the clamoring and moronic ramblings of idiots and being coerced to think and feel less about my body and what's right, but now it's completely the other way around and I can't wait to change things.

Finally feeling fulfilled and whole today after decades of feeling inadequate or odd for feeling, thinking and wanting what I want to wear or be.

Last year with a pandemic well under way I decided to do a risk/reward analysis. Lots of people were doing lots of different risk/reward comparisons so this one seemed reasonable.

Everyone on this forum knows the rewards, that's why they're here. Comfort, performance, feeling sexy, better tanlines, etc...

So what's the risk of wearing anything less than boardshorts?

Looks of disapproval: Who cares? I didn't go to the beach for their approval. This is just a filter to let me know what people are so closed minded they aren't even worth a greeting.

Mocking catcalls or insults: Again, who cares? If they are so compelled by someone's swimsuit to shout at them those people are likely huge jerks. This action says far more about who they are rather than who you are.

Physical altercation: This was one that was a bit of a concern. I live in the US Midwest. This region is not known for being highly tolerant and the risk that someone might escalate was real. I think the pandemic environment convinced me that maybe people had other stuff to worry about.

So, I'm now on year 2 of only wearing thongs to the beach. We do walk to more isolated areas, but still certainly within easy view of people. This is just a matter of respect. In situations where it might be tough to have a bit of separation(like a busy pool or waterpark) I will wear briefs.

I've had no bad interactions at all! I hope other people find the confidence to live how they want to!

sensu4 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:39 am Amen, I've been feeling more emboldened and daring. I even had a breakthrough today. I wrote about it in the swimwear section called "It finally happened! Happy thong tuesday!" a two parter rather rambling writeup.

After the build up to it and actually going through with it I feel somewhat more differently than before. I have felt prudishness to be one of the most disgusting of things but usually I wouldn't be as forthright nor extroverted about it.

Now I feel differently having openly worn my thong while changing AND while swimming at the pool. I have come to see boardshorts in this new light as being not only ridiculous but appalling. Before I would've felt like it was "appropriate" due to all the clamoring and moronic ramblings of idiots and being coerced to think and feel less about my body and what's right, but now it's completely the other way around and I can't wait to change things.

Finally feeling fulfilled and whole today after decades of feeling inadequate or odd for feeling, thinking and wanting what I want to wear or be.

Congratulations and I'm proud of you for taking the next step.

Cingularity wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:10 am Last year with a pandemic well under way I decided to do a risk/reward analysis. Lots of people were doing lots of different risk/reward comparisons so this one seemed reasonable.

Everyone on this forum knows the rewards, that's why they're here. Comfort, performance, feeling sexy, better tanlines, etc...

So what's the risk of wearing anything less than boardshorts?

Looks of disapproval: Who cares? I didn't go to the beach for their approval. This is just a filter to let me know what people are so closed minded they aren't even worth a greeting.

Mocking catcalls or insults: Again, who cares? If they are so compelled by someone's swimsuit to shout at them those people are likely huge jerks. This action says far more about who they are rather than who you are.

Physical altercation: This was one that was a bit of a concern. I live in the US Midwest. This region is not known for being highly tolerant and the risk that someone might escalate was real. I think the pandemic environment convinced me that maybe people had other stuff to worry about.

So, I'm now on year 2 of only wearing thongs to the beach. We do walk to more isolated areas, but still certainly within easy view of people. This is just a matter of respect. In situations where it might be tough to have a bit of separation(like a busy pool or waterpark) I will wear briefs.

I've had no bad interactions at all! I hope other people find the confidence to live how they want to!

Here is one reason we need to get out to the beaches in full force. This popped up on my news page today. More brain washing or trying to brain wash girls at the beach. I wish I would have been at the beach that day, he would have seen all of what I would have told him to KISS!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tiktoke ... 15245.html

ralange wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 am Here is one reason we need to get out to the beaches in full force. This popped up on my news page today. More brain washing or trying to brain wash girls at the beach. I wish I would have been at the beach that day, he would have seen all of what I would have told him to KISS!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tiktoke ... 15245.html

This is why we love you, Randy! Would love to witness you giving some repressed misguided moral crusader both barrels(or butt cheeks in your case)lol.

ralange wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 am Here is one reason we need to get out to the beaches in full force. This popped up on my news page today. More brain washing or trying to brain wash girls at the beach. I wish I would have been at the beach that day, he would have seen all of what I would have told him to KISS!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tiktoke ... 15245.html

That's a shame in two aspects. Giving Christians a bad image and disrespecting people's rights to wear what they want. IMO a Christian or anyone for that matter should not try to force their beliefs on someone else. I saw a headline somewhere about an official of I think it was track and field telling an athlete she should wear more modest running attire. She was wearing what appeared to be the running brief option that many wear. Then another headline going the opposite direction, which is wrong too. Norway's handball team got fined for wearing shorts (not loose fitting ones), because bikinis are the acceptable uniform for their sport. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sk ... horts-fine So the fight continues to allow people to wear what they want.

tbdrawer wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:11 pm

ralange wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:01 am Here is one reason we need to get out to the beaches in full force. This popped up on my news page today. More brain washing or trying to brain wash girls at the beach. I wish I would have been at the beach that day, he would have seen all of what I would have told him to KISS!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tiktoke ... 15245.html

That's a shame in two aspects. Giving Christians a bad image and disrespecting people's rights to wear what they want. IMO a Christian or anyone for that matter should not try to force their beliefs on someone else. I saw a headline somewhere about an official of I think it was track and field telling an athlete she should wear more modest running attire. She was wearing what appeared to be the running brief option that many wear. Then another headline going the opposite direction, which is wrong too. Norway's handball team got fined for wearing shorts (not loose fitting ones), because bikinis are the acceptable uniform for their sport. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sk ... horts-fine So the fight continues to allow people to wear what they want.

The incident with the British female athlete being told to wear something less revealing received a lot of publicity here in the UK. Olivia is a champion long jumper and is a Para Olympian so she competes with a disability. I saw the pictures of what she was wearing and they were pretty standard and definitely not worthy of such judgemental comments from that female official. The Norwegian ladies beach volleyball team being fined for wearing shorts rather than the standard bikini bottoms shows the other side of the coin. No wonder female athletes are up in arms about their treatment when it seems they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't!
Strangely, male athletes don't seem to receive the same criticism as their female counterparts. When you think of this blog and how guys in speedos are treated by society for showing even a hint of a bulge, then you see the male athletes in their skin tight lycra shorts that leave nothing to the imagination, it's a rare double standard that favours the guys. Can you image the outrage if some official had gone up to Usain Bolt after breaking a world record and suggested he wore baggy shorts in future to cover up his swinging appendage?

I agree with Nate that the guy harassing the girl on the beach for what she was wearing does give Christians etc a bad name. By all means, live by your own or your religion's standards, but don't take it upon yourself to force your beliefs on others with differing opinions! I give you Westboro Baptist Church as an admittedly extreme example of that!