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thank you very much Swimmer78 and Tanga tanga for your support and encouragement. well...the three girls are very young , about 23-24 years old and they belong to the generation which is very consernative. in one previous post i was saying that in Greece things are getting more and more consernative, and the behavior of these three girls confirm my thought.
Now, i really believe that they couldnt stand the fact that 2 men are wearing thongs. I talked about it with Nikos and he has the same opinion. For them the man should wear big board shorts or at least speedo. but why thong is so bad? because goes between the cheeks and TOUCH THE BACK DOOR.
A real man cann't accept this.otherwise is just gay and these 3 girls dont like to have gay men as their company.
Me and Nikos we had the above conclusion because of their responnces to other subjects we talked about.Nikos talked with them about the prostate massage and all together replied that " we are straight, we dont like either want to touch the prostate of our lovers. we are not gay.! "
so you can get the picture.
Of course they are immature.they dont know anything about sex and orgasm.And they dont want to expand their limits.
From the other hand, yes i believed that they were a little jealus.Not for my ass -is very far away from being bubble- but for nikos.Nikos has the perfect bubble butt.I say to him all the time that thongs are made for his ass.
and to be honest, i am very pleased that he choosed to wear thongs.They are made for his tight bubble ass.
None of the girls had the shape of ass, nikos has.
Anyway, since then , me and nikos have been to beach at least 3 times, enjoying the sun , the sea and our outfit!!
Today, we went to the beach again, we had a great time. Then we change to dry clothes and went for dinner and as soon as we got back , i am writting this message. Nikos is next to me helping me.
We wear our pyjamas thongs and nothing and nobody will stop us from enjoying thong swimwear and underwear.

Ioanniskef: Hello to you and your friend Nikos! I've been following your story with great interest, and have a few comments. First: I hope you both have learned a good lesson in who NOT to spend ANY time with! You're right about those young ladies: definitely immature, well- practiced in the double standard of thongs being only for women, AND, like many others, inserting the word "conservative" for "discrimination." I'm a little older than you, and have seen this f...'n "soap opera" before. No doubt they will happily go see male strippers, and MOAN as they tuck big bills in their tiny G-strings! Tell 'em to put on sweatshirts and long pants before they head to "Bashful Beach" or "Loonie Lake!" Next comment for you and Nikos: wear what YOU want, WHEN you want! Next comment: do NOT spend ONE PENNY at ANY beach that does not welcome microwear (or even nudity) for both men and women. Women want equality, and I fully agree with that. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS! Next comment: ANY man (gay, straight or bi) has a RIGHT to wear microwear! It is NOT just for gay men! Next comment (and I just LOVE this one!!): gay, straight and bi WOMEN like, and wear, microwear!!! (Will wonders ever cease?!?) Talk about a f...'n double standard!!! They can put their "conservative" double standard "where the sun don't shine!" I'm glad your most recent trip to the beach was successful! It sounds like you both had a good time! I hope the two of you actively seek out other fans of microwear and nudity to enjoy time with and get to know. You will be among new friends who feel NO shame in a reasonable, holistic expression of sensuality and sexuality. The so-called "conservatives" are cowards in disguise. They are either ashamed of their bodies or let others do their thinking for them, or BOTH! They are NOT worthy of ANY of your time OR attention. That said, here's the link to my page on Flickr. Guess you could say I'm a bit of an exhibitionist! I'm looking forward to being so "attired" on my next vacation to a beach which welcomes (drum roll, cymbals)...microwear and nudity! Do you think my teeny bikini is too big?!? (Not bad for 70!...)...https://www.flickr.com/people/188479393@N06/

Well Microbikini you look very good in your tiny bikini !! i hope when i reach your age to look as good as you ! I read your post and i agree with your observations.
Especially about double standards.
Today we were at this pool bar and enjoy milkshake and coffee.
https://www.logosgrandview.com/el/kefalonia-bar-lassi-2
its one of the very best pool bars in Kefallonia, with a nice view.
Something important for us:
we spent time together, we use to sleep in my house, but we dont have relationship, only friendship.
We have great time together, but not only because we wear thongs.We have a excellent chemistry, that means that we talk a lot, we understand each other, we take care of each other, and we have a lot of common experiences habits, ideas, ways to see life.
Anyway, Fivi called me today and she proposed to me and Nikos, to stay at her apartment during our stay at her city, the last days of September. I dont know what she has in mind,but i believe that maybe i will have intresting things to share with you.....
Very soon i promise that i will share a photo of me and nikos, as a way to know us.

ioanniskef wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:12 pm Well Microbikini you look very good in your tiny bikini !! i hope when i reach your age to look as good as you ! I read your post and i agree with your observations.
Especially about double standards.
Today we were at this pool bar and enjoy milkshake and coffee.
https://www.logosgrandview.com/el/kefalonia-bar-lassi-2
its one of the very best pool bars in Kefallonia, with a nice view.
Something important for us:
we spent time together, we use to sleep in my house, but we dont have relationship, only friendship.
We have great time together, but not only because we wear thongs.We have a excellent chemistry, that means that we talk a lot, we understand each other, we take care of each other, and we have a lot of common experiences habits, ideas, ways to see life.
Anyway, Fivi called me today and she proposed to me and Nikos, to stay at her apartment during our stay at her city, the last days of September. I dont know what she has in mind,but i believe that maybe i will have intresting things to share with you.....
Very soon i promise that i will share a photo of me and nikos, as a way to know us.

Hi ioanniskef, I was just browsing this thread again and was curious if anything else happened between you and Fivi?

Hi Swimmer78 !! its been a lot of time since my last post.I apologize...
Well i will write here everything happened during these days since august 24th
Well the girls left from the island and i drive them back to their city, the city of Patras..i did it because i was going to the city of Athens and Patras is on my way...
We had to take a ferry boat and the total distance is rather big so we had a lot of time to talk ad have fun...
Fivi during this trip wore a very nice summer dress, the two others cut off shorts..especially paola has a rather short cut off jean short, so the lower cheeks were in common view...of course thongs was our choice hehe...
i had a white mesh shorts, with a grey intimissimi thong under...

https://www.intimissimi.com/gr/product/ ... _INTU=9958
so it was obvious what i have under the shorts.
Fivi, noticed it and comment like : so you wear them often...
Every day fivi i answered...
When we were in the car we had nice conversations about everything but especially about sex matters, nudism etc..
Fivi said that she like to try nudism ....
When we arrived at patras...i left the others 2 girls at their home and last was Fivi. She got out of the car, gave me a big hug and said that she was waiting me and nikos to her apartment right after the semester exams...
so fast forward...21 of september arrived and me and nikos went to patras......
Fivi opened her house wearing a thin cotton shorts with the half of its back into her ass....leaving a tiny part of her cheeks exposed.
She show to us our bed and said : be comfortable guys..consider that you are in your place...
ohhh she was sooo kind hehehe...
Nikos stripped down to his thong immediately, i change in another more soft shorts.
Fivi,me and Nikos after few hours we felt sooo comfortable with each other that soon me and Fivi wear only in our thongs...nikos was already...
We had a great time, we went for swimming, fivi was almost naked ( a tiny tiny swimthong she said , but i believe it was a g string underwear).
Well, i am not details..maybe inappropriate for this forum ( i can say them i private message swimmer78).
We establish a very good relationship...we stayed for 2 nights and 3 days...and will repeat it soon.. i hope !

It's looking more promising now, John. My take on this is that Fivi is able to be more honest about her thoughts about you wearing men's thongs once the other two were out of the way.

One thing to consider is that her reaction might not be to you wearing thongs as such, but the bulkier styles that you show. Have you considered wearing some skimpier thongs, of the type that Nate discusses on the blog. I don't mean so skimpy that you can't move without something falling out, so a decent pouch, but just skimpier sides/back. I know you want to support the Greek manufacturers, so if not possible to get skimpier styles from them then that is OK.

Another thing is that there are some tiny swimwear for women, so perhaps she was wearing swimwear and not underwear after all. What was the bikini top like - if it matched the bottom I'd say a very good bet it was swimwear.

Keep updating this post, it's interesting.

Thanks for the update! I agree with DownUnder, I think Fivi is much more open minded now about you and Nikos wearing thongs. It sounds like the three of you had a very pleasurable time together;) Keep us updated!

"Another thing is that there are some tiny swimwear for women, so perhaps she was wearing swimwear and not underwear after all. What was the bikini top like - if it matched the bottom I'd say a very good bet it was swimwear."

This is very possible. There are microbikini brands for women out there. Wicked Weasel and Malibu Strings both come to mind. Really hot stuff! Check them out. I don't know if their available in Greece but I'm sure there are some euro brands as well.

I also agree with DownUnder about considering a smaller thong. Here's a link to Skinzwear showing one with VERY little coverage! The Greek and European companies probably offer similar microstyles. Keep us posted about your progress! https://skinzwear.com/product_detail.ph ... -Deep-Jade

Well hi !!
I tried to upload pictures of me in my thongs, so to have a better knowledge about my body shape and how the thongs i prefer looks on me but i didnt find the way to do it.How to upload a picture...
so....thak you for your interest in fist place !! Thank you for your thoughts, encouragament, advises and for everything else!!!
Well...i am 1.75 cm tall, 82 kg weight and my body is just average...i used to be much more fit, for that reason , because i want to return to my previous condition, i started gym again.
But until i reach my personal image-goal, i feel insecure about my image in a thong.
I believe that skimpier style would be just awful on me, so i prefer - and feel more comfortable-in more " consernative" or bigger thongs.
I dont like thongs who looks like brazilian or half butt (1/2 or 3/4 ) or even cheeky boxers/bikinis.
I like briefs type thongs...in front like a brief ( small one ) and back just a normal T....
Nikos is right the opposite..he has the perfect body so most of his thongs are like the proposal from Microbikinima did...but he can support this outfit...he has perfect round bubble butt, and well gym body..with zero fat at sides..just like the model
https://skinzwear.com/product_detail.ph ... -Deep-Jade

Now, about Fivi ....well the observation about matching colors or fabric was briliant...i spoke to Nikos about it and as both could remember...the color was the same but the fabric was different and we made the coclusion that she couldnt had time to order and receive that kind of swimswuit...so we believe that she wore a tiny uderwear, maybe from lycra or something...it was difficult to dry afterall, and probably that was the reason she changed very quickly to a dry swimsuit after we said that we are not going to reenter to sea. Still remained a thong, but it was a bigger one...
Me and Fivi have a regular communication until now..of course we are nto talking about underwear...but for various subjects...and i think that she will visit my place pretty soon...maybe next weekend....i will inform...
one Question born in me, while being with Fivi and after she left...
I think that women are not into male underwear...they dont like to talk about what men wear with a man...maybe they talk with other women about it but for them is really difficult to talk about. am i right? What are your experiences ?
For example, Five made a comment about me and thongs, i already wrote, but nothing else...even we were at her apartment 3 people in thongs, she pleasantly accepted compliments about her lingerie, but she didtn said anything about our thongs...like : i like what i see, but i have nothing to say about...
Do you agree with me ? your gf or wife talks about your habit or comments a nice thong on you?